This was a conversation I stumbled upon at 2:30 am on Wednesday. XSketch must be pretty inspiring!

spamzhoc: i think... its better to have faith and be wrong
Boloo: that belief is not just based on fear of death
Daniel B: ok ok
Boloo: it is the only thing that gives human life meaning
Jennywren82: wow, i walked into a deep conversation
Boloo: yup
Boloo: lol
Boloo: someone else started it
spamzhoc: than sit around being depressed
spamzhoc: about human life
Boloo: not depressed
spamzhoc: thats no way to libe
spamzhoc: live*
Boloo: I believe in god too, you know
spamzhoc: i would rather believe and be wrong than not believe anything.
Boloo: i believe too
Boloo: lol
spamzhoc: personal preference
spamzhoc: lol
Boloo: I don't know what we are arguing about
KinguDeanu: that is true
Boloo: not really arguing
Boloo: though
spamzhoc: not really
Daniel B: senseless shit
Boloo: but discussing
spamzhoc: any more
Jennywren82: i believe in ice cream
spamzhoc: we were arguing earlier
spamzhoc: now were kinda on the same side..
spamzhoc: lol
KinguDeanu: I'm more of a nihilist
spamzhoc: now im just venting
KinguDeanu: why would God care about an individual
Boloo: I wasn't really arguing with you
Tracey P is here
spamzhoc: why not?
spamzhoc: id rather believe he does
spamzhoc: and not be able to know
KinguDeanu: there is a whole universe there
KinguDeanu: I know where you come from
KinguDeanu: but you can't choose what you believe
Boloo: whole universe without sentient beings like us (as far as we know)
spamzhoc: i beg to differ
Tracey P has left
spamzhoc: ohhh lets talk about infinity
spamzhoc: my favorite topic
Boloo: I thought that you couldn't choose what you believed
Boloo: so I acted according to what I thought was right
Boloo: and found that I wouldn't have acted if I didn't believe
Assel is here
Boloo: what about infinity, sir?
KinguDeanu: why infinity?
spamzhoc: the universe has to be infinite... bc it cant end... the nothing beyond it is something in itself... thus anything you can imagine
spamzhoc: must exist in any given time
KinguDeanu: uhhhh
spamzhoc: in any given place
spamzhoc: in any given condition
Boloo: but it had a finite point that it started in the past
spamzhoc: i disagree.
spamzhoc: our universe did
Boloo: big bang?
spamzhoc: but beyond that...
spamzhoc: you cant say there was nothing and it just started
Boloo: something else caused it
spamzhoc: thus there must be more beyond our universe
spamzhoc: exactly
chipati: I would rather know than just believe
spamzhoc: so space is infinite
KinguDeanu: uhhhh
Boloo: well
Boloo: kind of complicated
spamzhoc: you can never find a starting point...
Boloo: our understanding is limited to our universe though
Boloo: how can we guess what is outside?
KinguDeanu: our universe is finite, is the general concensus in the scientific community
Boloo: well
spamzhoc: our universe
spamzhoc: im saying beyond that
Boloo: there are theories about the formation of the universe
spamzhoc: further out
Boloo: but they are just mathematical models
Boloo: M-theory I think
KinguDeanu: exactly
spamzhoc: how can it be finite?
KinguDeanu: big bang
spamzhoc: i mean how can there be an end
KinguDeanu: then space grew
spamzhoc: what caused the big bang?
spamzhoc: nothing?
Boloo: god?
spamzhoc: a finite beginning?
KinguDeanu: colliding universes :O
spamzhoc: space can only be finite if there is a god.
Boloo: colliding branes is a guess
spamzhoc: because without one
Boloo: the "uncaused cause"
KinguDeanu: wasn't the big bang idea made by a member of the clergy anyway?
spamzhoc: there must always be a cuase
spamzhoc: cause*
Baylor: don't you folks want to sketch and guess?
Boloo: I was going to
KinguDeanu: and was originally put forth as a evidence of the existance of god
Boloo: but talking here entertains me more
Daniel B: read history of tim by stephen hawking
KinguDeanu: I WAS SKETCHING and it made me away while I was drawing
Daniel B: time*
chipati has left
Boloo: stephen hawking can do his calculations
Boloo: but outside of that
spamzhoc: i dont think its proof of god.
Boloo: he's not a great read
spamzhoc: i think its proof that if the universe is finite
spamzhoc: there is a god
Daniel B: i don't believe in god
spamzhoc: but we cannot say the universe is finite.
Daniel B: it's senseless
Jennsta is here
Boloo: that's the thing
toucansam: god makes me lawl cuz hes not reall
KinguDeanu: big bang goes hand in hand with finite universe
Daniel B: lol
spamzhoc: it is human nature to assume that all things have a beginning
Boloo: yeah
spamzhoc: im sorry
spamzhoc: i keep saying finite universe
spamzhoc: i mean finite space
spamzhoc: that space has a beginning
KinguDeanu: same thing
spamzhoc: not at all...
Boloo: so what is outside of our universe then?
Daniel B: but what was before space
spamzhoc: who know?
Boloo: our universe is floating in space?
spamzhoc: but whatever is outside of the univers
Boloo: how would we know?
spamzhoc: universe
spamzhoc: has a cause
KinguDeanu: God's happy giggles
spamzhoc: and that cause
spamzhoc: has a cause
KinguDeanu: caused big bang
spamzhoc: which means
Boloo: yeah
spamzhoc: unless there is a god space is infinite.
Boloo: what argument is that called?
spamzhoc: never ending.
Boloo: cosmological I think
Boloo: wiki wiki wiki
spamzhoc: i can believe either really...
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spamzhoc: the concept of infinity is fascinating to me...
spamzhoc: lol
Jennsta is here
spamzhoc: so is the concept of religion.
Boloo: because it doesn't actually exist in our universe
Jennsta: anyone for 10k table?
Jennsta: ATHIRD WHEEL
Jennsta: THIRD WHEEL
KinguDeanu: I am cold and wet :(
spamzhoc: if u can prove that space is finite
XiangTian is here
spamzhoc: you prove that god exists.
spamzhoc: to me.
Boloo: all I'm saying is that our universe is finite
Baylor: ty, Jennsta
Boloo: I don't know what is beyond that
Boloo: but my reason says that there is an uncaused cause
spamzhoc: but isn't it interestion?
Daniel B: another universe
Jennsta: yw!
spamzhoc: interesting*
Ladylene is here
Boloo: yeah
Boloo: absolutely