Thank you for essentially defending my position, it just seemed like such a childish approach to warning me I left my seat to go do something else. I just stopped playing after that because I didn't want anymore crap from the veterans about dashes bashing my apparently shocking inability to gain so many points.

As someone new I know I'm not the best and I struggle sometimes to think of a clever picture. I'm also using a laptop touch pad, have no graphics or drawing background so I'm not a great drawer so I utilized what I could to help my drawing. I've more frequently tried to wait until after drawing to do any dashes if it isn't guessed but when breaking down a word I needed some visual aid. I simply wrote dashes to distinguish the section of the word I was drawing since I had to break it down, I couldn't think of how else to do so.

Over time I'm sure I'll improve but we all start somewhere. Never once have I written a word out and I used numbers the very first time and immediately stopped after being better informed on the rules. I love the site for the regulations on writing words out, etc, it far surpasses the free for all rules of other pictionary style sites so I will continue to play ad support this wonderful game but I personally, as I'm sure most new players would as well, would appreciate it if from now on instead of immediately bashing the players and saying it's a shame I had so many point like I didn't deserve it you inform me of what you think I did wrong. I don't get easily offended and don't want to make any issue I'd just appreciate straight forward honest commentary so I can improve to the higher standards veterans seem to hold instead of sarcastic attacks.

Veterans are my favorites to play with since they know the ropes, can guess my pictures better, and I can in turn learn to be a better player from them. I just hope attitudes improve and the isolation is no longer an issue, I'm trying hard to abide by all rules and just enjoy the game as we all should.

Led, I was present during both of the instances you are talking about. First, when dashes are written without a draw being attempted, I just never guess. I don't warn people out of their draws, but I do ask that they attempt to draw before using them. I don't mock people or try to make them feel bad. No one else at the table did either. If you saw commentary about the dashes, it's because it's been a sore spot lately.

Second, when regular players want to play a more complicated game, it's considerate, not rude, to move to another table where we won't confuse new players. We're not doing anything against the rules and we're not trying to make people feel bad by leaving. And never would any of us leave a table that didn't have at least a few players left to entertain each other.

And yes, we all appreciate the work KKM, PM, and Jurgen do here to keep the site working and free from trouble makers. And you won't have to look hard to find any of the regulars greeting new players, helping them to find that ever-elusive "sit in" button, or giving pointers on the rules. Frankly, this "regulars versus new players" thing is getting old.

Happy sketching.

ledickface,

I'm not sure I appreciate you using me here as leverage for your stance. I did make a suggestion regarding the warning out of newcomers, but it was no way a finger pointing on my part. I also said that the warning out doesn't always happen. Peecee is correct when she says we also greet and try to guide newcomers accordingly when they seem confused, and as much as I made a suggestion about the warning out on first offense, I will also admit that I myself have done it.

I do think however, that titling your post "Arrogant players.. etc" is doing exactly what you are complaining about here. It's drawing a distinctive line between players which should not be there. You're coming after regulars for being good at the game and for choosing a different table to play in a certain way with each other. That's their prerogative and it's not insulting or unfair to newcomers. It's actually kinder that way so that the newcomers don't get confused. In any event, those games don't last longer than a few minutes.


Also, attacking a particular style of drawing when one chooses to use certain "cute" characters is also harsh. It's like you said..if it's not breaking a rule, it's not cheating. All it is, is an attempt to liven the atmosphere, and I myself have seen many a newcomer guess draws even with the "cutsies" being used. There is no harm done in doing it. In fact, a few days playing and it's easy to pick up on.

Deciding not to draw cutesy animals in every draw (as you pointed out for those who are interested in points only)is also that player's prerogative. Who are we to tell ppl how to draw?

I understand that you may be upset about certain things, but I also believe there is a way to go about raising a point. Your point is lost when you get nasty and start name calling. There is no reason to get personal and make things unpleasant. Regardless of what side you stand on, we all love the game, and that to me is common ground. If you want to make this a better environment for everyone to play and have fun, I suggest you try a more tactful method when trying to resolve issues.

"This is a pictionary site. It doesn't need to be so difficult to just sit back and have fun"

Congratulations...you just made things "un-fun"

Half the point of drawing our 'cutesy' avatar based pictures, is because it gives the game a personal touch and makes it way more interesting when you have to continuously draw dull words like knife and cup. I think it encourages new players to pick an avatar they can draw, so that they can develop a 'signature' picture, if you like, to draw when its their turn and people will remember it. It makes for a better community and encourages people to play regularly. Xsketch has a good community aspect about it, and having a distinctive avatar and using that in your draws can make you a good part of that.

I may have just posted this twice... Hopefully not.

I respect all of these responses. I'm glad you were able to clarify your stance PeeCee. I feel you understand where I'm coming from as well.

You could call this an attack on veteran players for sure. I see it as that. Doesn't mean I don't enjoy playing with you guys. I like this site. All I was trying to convey was the perspective of a new person to this game.

I was brutal in most of this post and that was my intent honestly. You guys say you welcome people...I believe that. I've seen it. But what I saw today was a little bit inconsistent with what I've seen before.

Continue drawing your "signature" stuff. Nobody can stop you from doing that. It would just be wise to perhaps keeps these new people in mind no matter how worn out you think the issue is.

As for you Yuxxy, your post was fine, explanatory, etc. I liked it..right up until the end. How did I ruin all the fun for you? Like I said, just because some of us do not partake in the animal signature thing, doesn't mean we can actually stop you guys. Feel free to continue your fun

"When a new player joins a game and sees an older member drawing upside down mushrooms and penguins, how are they supposed to know what the hell you're doing? It's no wonder this site is the frequent victim of trolling and raging from noobs."

When I first started playing it took me a little while to catch on to the quirks and signatures of the various players, but that's what gives this place its flavor and keeps the regulars coming back.

As for trolls, the vast majority of them come here with the intention of trolling and disruption, rather than doing it as a response to the actions of other players. If a certain number of people don't like the idiosyncrasies of the culture here, well, there's always isketch, I suppose. There is no rule that says this game must appeal to all people equally.

Your last post contradicts your original post Ledickface....and I agree with everything pc, yux and chris have said. I was also there for the incident. I don't warn people out of their draws, I kindly post in the chat box to not use letters/try to draw first before dashes, etc....if we tell them several times not to do it and they still continue to do it, then yes, I will warn them.

I am offended that you think that we moved to another table just to spite the newcomers when we were, in fact, doing them a courtesy. How dare you come and bash us for being kind in that way. As Yuxxy pointed out, when we do stuff like that, it doesn't last long...the upside down draws only lasted maybe 15-20 minutes, not the whole night.

I used to have several avatars I used, but since I wanted to be included in the "cutesy" draws, I now only use one avatar because I find it complimentary when people use me in their draws. It does make things more personal when you have a connection to the players...I have made great friends here that I now chat with outside of the game!

Nobody ever said, "everyone at the table has to draw our avatars and draw upside down"....in fact, one player even asked, "I don't want to draw upside down if that's okay with you guys" and a few of us responded that it was fine, nobody was forcing her to draw any certain way (and she is a pretty regular player, not a newcomer).

I don't understand why you and a few others have to constantly complain...it's an internet game, have fun with it. Sometimes it is nice to get away from the ordinary draws, like Chris said. Instead of just drawing a simple "cup"...we could have a kiwi bird, a penguin and a purple bird having a tea party, then point to the "cup" in the picture...makes the game much more interesting.

So, in conclusion....GET OVER IT and play the game, we are not breaking any rules...if you don't like how we are playing, there are other tables available :)

Well, by "ruining the fun", ledickface, I meant that your post came across in an attacking manner which you admitted yourself. That made it unpleasant for many ppl, which translates to ruining the fun (at least temporarily).

If only we were all as socially apt as Ledickface is, I'm sure that this would be a much more welcoming place.

Maffers.

Back to xsketch. I expected no one would like this post, regardless of its truth.

I appreciate the ad hominem maffers. It was well played like a typical douche